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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

Dear Dmitry,

There is an ecosystem of artists, an unknown underground, and the successful ones that we see copied the unknowns and yes, are able to make it when the culture is ready. Elvis with bluesmen who often toiled in obscurity for decades....THEN its time has come to the culture when it's sanded down and offered to the greater culture at large. Even Elvis' hips were too much at first... until they weren't.

We used to have genius gatekeepers who knew when culture was ready, or thought they knew.

But now, yes, everything is for a paycheck which changes the dynamic, and the secret weirdos can't live cheaply and there's no more underground as we've been priced out everywhere and everywhere is for sale.

So your theory is only taking in the age of internet, which has made us all whores.

However I believe people get tired of crap culture at some point, and that's when the thinkers and artists already on the fringe become the pretty people again because we get desperate for a new idea story or way out or around. Then they'll be copied by someone more relatable palatable and famous, and it will seem that they came out of pop culture, when they were carrying other underground ideas forward that had already been discussed much earlier and tested in the underground few know about.

I'm not at the beginning level myself; I just know to look for them. The weirdos no one knows and people think are mad.

I know one or two in real life, and John Michael Greer is an online example. He's considered hella pretty now.

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SamizBOT's avatar

There's a Simpsons scene that you may like as it relates to a lot of what you're saying here. In the episode, Lisa manages Bart's little league team, implementing all the sabermetrics spreadsheet wisdom, which improves the team but which Bart deeply resents. At the end, Bart decides to steal home to win the big game while Lisa stammers about how statistically impossible this play is until she's finally overtaken by the moment, saying "it's the most exciting play in baseball" before breaking out in cheers for her brother. It's really a beautiful scene. Like you said, life (like baseball) is not a spreadsheet.

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